Scarlor OOC thread

[Chris1234]

Karelene did not promise him freedom.
She did promise him that she would not hurt him.
And that is RPing - the "finding loopholes' thing is in the Lor write up..

[spike]

Yes, exactly. Good rping btw.

He'll do what he has to to protect his sister, evil or not, but Idrys never promised not to kill him. He was also not planning on killing the guard (since the guard didn't threaten Karlene). Just wanted to get your reasoning

Understood, and you didn't actually kill the guard. But the officer did fork over a great deal of useful information and was under the assumption he would be freed or at least shown leniency. So when you backstabbed him and then dump him overboard for his remains to be consumed by Giant Ghar fish (what if he had family who could at least mourn his loss?) that's evil. So I usually make a saving throw and if failed apply an alignment change every so often when something occurs that's not exactly neutral IMHO. A less evil way to finish him as I said would've been to either tell him outright you're going to execute him (for his crimes, etc), offer him fighting chance or to run then hunt him down/kill him.

[TristenC]

you didn't actually kill the guard.

I know that.

But the officer did fork over a great deal of useful information and was under the assumption he would be freed or at least shown leniency.

Not to belabor the point, but that was his assumption. And idrys might not have killed him if he hadn't threatened to kill them, or had even once indicated he wouldn't immediately run to his group and give up their location.[/color]

So when you backstabbed him and then dump him overboard for his remains to be consumed by Giant Ghar fish (what if he had family who could at least mourn his loss?) that's evil.

how is the fish bit any different from guard 2?

So I usually make a saving throw and if failed apply an alignment change every so often when something occurs that's not exactly neutral IMHO. A less evil way to finish him as I said would've been to either tell him outright you're going to execute him (for his crimes, etc), offer him fighting chance or to run then hunt him down/kill him.

like I said, idrys will do what he has to to protect his sister. It just seemed a bit srbitrary in this case in light of recent events

[spike]

Guard 2 didn't have anything useful to provide the party, plus no deal was struck. He could have even simply lied through his teeth but he flatly refused to do confide anything useful, so executing him wasn't so bad. You did give him a chance to provide something that Karlene didn't already know.

[TristenC]

Nope, 3/2 is 2 attacks 1st round, 1 the second making it 3 full attacks for 2 rounds. It's like a counter, just think: 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1. When you progress then you'll get 2/1, and eventually 3/1 which is like master level.

I understand the 2,1,2,1 thing, but that only considers the main hand. The second hand has a sword too, which gets 1 attack/round. added together they wpuld be 2,3,2,3 correct?

[TristenC]

That's not how it works in 1e the 1 attack is followed by 2 attacks which are r-l handed swords in the round thereafter,. Especially with two longswords which is extremely challenging to wield skillfully. Most 1-5 level chars are lucky to get more that 1'attack

So wielding 2 longswords with specialization gives the same number of attacks/round as using a single longsword with specialization? Something about that seems confusing

[Chris1234]

That's not how it works in 1e the 1 attack is followed by 2 attacks which are r-l handed swords in the round thereafter,. Especially with two longswords which is extremely challenging to wield skillfully. Most 1-5 level chars are lucky to get more that 1'attack

DMG 1E p70 cites attacking with 2 weapons
UA p18 cites 3/2 attacks per round with a single specialized weapon-use.
Nothing in DSG or GH Adventures.
None of these cite ambidexterity nor Adv 2WF nor two weapon stye; these are all 2E but you've ported them in which is fine but I'd argue 2nd weapon applies as per 2e, namely +1 attack per round on top of that char's number of attacks (with primary hand)..
So -2 to hit with primary weapon and -4 to hit with secondary (both being used in the same round) and both being reduced to a maximum of 0 by DEX reaction modifier. Advanced 2-weapon fighting (aka 2 weapon fighting style specialization) allows use of 2 weapons of the same size*, otherwise secondary weapon must be 1 size smaller, unless both are small (and at least 1 size category smaller then the wielder) and eliminates the -2/-2 penalty*, leaving just the -2 penalty for off hand weapon use* which can be reduced to a maximum of 0 by DEX reaction modifier.
Ambidexterity eliminates the distinction of an offhand, so effectively the character has 2 primary hands and both attack at -2 to hit* which can be reduced to a maximum of 0 by DEX reaction modifier.
The elimination of a secondary hand implies that 2 weapons of the same size can be used*, both at the -2 penalty for 2 weapon use, albeit this is never explicitly stated (but it is most certainly not contradicted in RAW.)

*All of these are "per round"

[spike]

Ah, the benefits however are that Idrys would be able to A. attack and parry at the same time and B. attack different opponents with different attacks e.g. 2 this round you can target opponents #1 & #2.

We could bring him up to 2/1 attacks but you will loose the 2 abilities mentioned above (parry + attack, attack multiple targets) whereas you get 2 attacks vs. 1 single opponent and a parry will cost you an attack.

[TristenC]

Ok. I guess the benefits were never clearly defined with respect to each abiility, so it was confusing

[Rivi]

hi should be back monday to jump back into all games might take me a little bit to get re acclimated so should be posting by some time monday

[Chris1234]

@Spike - you ok? Hope I've not put you off or anything... Hopefully just quiet cos you're moving.. Hope it goes well!

@Tristen - Happy to take any input on the 'kit' or 'to do' lists... please..

[Rivi]

hi i am back just realy busy at work so haven't caught up i am reading once iv caught up ill jump in just keep draging john along

[Chris1234]

Did Spike indicate how long he might be gone for?

[TristenC]

Not that I recall

[Chris1234]

OK, just have to wait.
It was fun playing your sister! Even more so as a half vamp!