Your #1 Source for online D&D gaming!

OOC Thread

A sandbox 2E game set in the home-brewed world of Amtar. On a group of tropical islands, a party of adventurers try and make their mark on the world.

Moderator: JadedDM

Locked
User avatar
Jenara
Elven Princess
Elven Princess
Posts: 11684
http://www.ibro.pl/blog/najlepsza-oferta-na-kuchnie-na-wymiar-w-warszawie/
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:00 am
Location: United Kingdom

Re: OOC Thread

Post by Jenara »

Then as she refilled hers, she would share hers with Grey.
"The songbird is not the eagle and the eagle is not the songbird. Mira, you cannot be everything to everyone - if you do, you end up exhausted, slumped against a wall, in the room of someone you don't particularly like." - Artanis Auir

Demiplane of Dread - Mira Human Bard (Searching for a Monster)
Genwald - Nesserrr (Katten) Feliz Ranger (Hunting Goblins.)
- Stardust (Jade) Pixie Warlock (Seeking answers)
User avatar
JadedDM
Initiate Immortal
Initiate Immortal
Posts: 11402
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:00 am
Location: Washington, USA

Re: OOC Thread

Post by JadedDM »

Okay, XP is up. This chapter was running a little long, so I decided to split it up into two parts. I figured the party could use the extra XP in order to finish up the island anyway.

Horizon, to level up your character, please roll and post 1d8-1. The -1 is from her poor CON score. If you roll a 0 (1-1), you still get a minimum of 1 HP.

I've updated the Places and People and the Calendar threads.

Here are my thoughts on the session:

This adventure is perhaps the most difficult one of the five starter quests. Although you have a level 5 cleric to help you out, he can sometimes be as much a hindrance than a help. Had you a couple of levels under your belt, this mission might be easier; but oh, well. Such is the way of things.

Speaking of the kohen, he's an interesting character to roleplay. He comes off as bookish and kindly, like an academic grandfather. But he has a more ruthless side, as evidenced by his animating of the dead.

The large statue the party found in the wild, with the three eyes, was a bit of foreshadowing of what would be discovered in the temple (assuming the party searched it, anyway).

The party could use some leadership, I think. This was most evident right before the second battle, when the party kept arguing with each other on how to deal with the tribals (rush in, ambush, reason with them, etc.). The party is so chaotic, overall and many of them have rather 'forceful' personalities, which is causing a lot of friction. This was one instance where I'm glad I have Dalaim to step in and smooth things out, coming up with a plan that allowed everyone to play some role in the fight.

The second battle turned out to be much more dangerous than the first, despite the fact there were fewer enemy combatants and the party had the element of surprise. This was due to levels. In the first battle, all of the tribals were level 0, save their leader who was a level 3 fighter. In the second battle, only two tribals were level 0. The third, the warrior that nearly killed Val, was a level 3 fighter and the fourth, Maua, is a druid.

I never expected the party to take any captives, so I had to start fleshing out Maua on the spot. I've been keeping strict records of everything she says and what it translates to, so I can keep her language straight.

The tribals' god should have been very familiar to Horizon. He was a god I used in the old Lost Souls, before the reboot. When I rebooted, I switched the gods around. In the first version of the game, the gods Octhanus, Gonto, Renos and Crizza were forgotten and lost, worshiped by the ancients long ago. There was a new pantheon of gods instead, which included the three-eyed soul eater god. In Lost souls 2.0, now the 'new' gods are old, and the 'old' gods are new.

All combat XP was divided up among the party evenly, including Dalaim. Because the party is so big (7 total), combat XP was a little thin. Remember, if you get knocked out in a fight, you don't get any combat XP for that particular battle.

And some thoughts for each of you.

Horizon
Don't forget that the code of the Octhanus faith is that you cannot willingly and meaningfully kill a sapient being unless there is no other option. I remember running into this issue when you played Abigail back in the day, so I added that extra caveat when I created the church of Octhanus (and you can find it in the Lost Souls Handbook thread). So if someone is actively trying to kill you or a teammate, you are allowed to act with deadly force if there is no other option. You also have the option of using non-lethal attacks in melee, too. I bring this up because toward the end of the second battle, when things were starting to look pretty desperate, it looked like you were going to just sit and watch as Dalaim and the others were killed because you 'couldn't do anything.' You always have options open, though. Remember that Octhanus is not a Lawful deity. She's more concerned with doing what's right than following rules to the letter. She'd rather you take a life in order to save a life than just sit there and let everyone be killed for no good reason. The reason I bring this up, is your character is Chaotic Good, and so shouldn't be so overly concerned with following the rules exactly as written.

Breila
I didn't give you a share of the combat XP from the first battle (with the archers) on account that Ouragana didn't do anything to participate in the fight. But here's a tip: She could have used her Dancing Lights spell to 'paint' targets, to borrow a military term. By sending a light to hover around an archer, the party could aim at the light instead of the archer, and thus ignore darkness and concealment penalties. A mage is the worst class to play at level 1 (I know, my first character ever was a half-elf mage), but if you're creative and can think outside of the box, you can come up with little ways like that to help the party in times of need.

Also, congrats on acquiring the game's first permanent magical item (I say permanent, because potions are one-shot items). Hopefully you can get it properly identified.

Jenara
Areilon is already nearly at level 3, but that's no surprise; thieves always level fast at the beginning, with clerics a close second (poor mages, though).

Nuke
Val is a little over half-way toward level 2. So keep at it. Also, she did not get enough water the night before. Not a problem for now, but if she doesn't get at least 7 pints in the next day, penalties will begin to accrue from dehydration.

Xelphyn and Noldoli
I'm not sure what happened to either of you. You both showed a lot of promise. I don't know if either of you will ever read this, but if you do, you can still return to the game, if you wish. But at the time of writing this, it has been over a month and a half since your disappearance. Once the party returns from the island, I will be seeking out replacements. I hope you are both well, and wish you luck in your future endeavors.

I hope to get Chapter 4 up soon. If anyone has any questions, feedback, opinions, anything, feel free to let me know.
User avatar
Breila
Grey Eminence
Grey Eminence
Posts: 5991
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:02 pm
Location: Swabia (SW Germany)

Re: OOC Thread

Post by Breila »

I'm still getting used to playing a mage. Thinking outside of the box is not really my strenght, so I guess I will progress slowly.

About the leadership... well, this is a process that takes time, especially in a chaotic group like this. This is not a fixed group with an obvious hierarchy, but a group of individuals who had nothing better to do and decided to go on a quest. Neither Ouragana nor Jocelyn can lead a group into battle, because they don't have the experience. Val could, but she has difficulties communicating. The "employer" would be the most obvious leader in this situation, as Dalaim had to be in the end.
There's more to me than meets the eye...
User avatar
JadedDM
Initiate Immortal
Initiate Immortal
Posts: 11402
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:00 am
Location: Washington, USA

Re: OOC Thread

Post by JadedDM »

You'll get the hang of it, I'm sure. You just need to survive these first few levels. Mages start out as the weakest class in the game, but after awhile, they become the most powerful. Playing a mage is something of an investment that pays off later on.

As for leadership and such, I should point out that Val doesn't have any more or less experience than anyone else. Everyone started at level 1 with 0 XP when the game started. Being a fighter does not automatically make one a better tactician or anything. (I've seen plenty of fighters who have no sense of tactics or leadership whatsoever, in fact.)

I'm not saying Val cannot or should not be the leader, of course.

The leader should be, above all else, someone that everyone else respects and will listen to. Unfortunately, nobody in the group really fits that description right now. The party is largely chaotic, and well, getting chaotics to work together is no easy task. They are individualists by nature. Plus, there's a lot of friction in the group right now. But still, it's something to think about in the future.

I try to avoid having an NPC as group leader, even though it tends to work out better that way. But I don't like to do that, because then it feels like I'm railroading the party, even if I'm not. That's why I usually don't have Dalaim step in unless the party is going in circles, as they did before the second battle.
Nuke
Lord
Lord
Posts: 1273
Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:46 pm

Re: OOC Thread

Post by Nuke »

Well, where to begin....

I'll keep at it for sure, experience will come. Tough bunch of rolls to fight through, but hey, at least she survived.

The communication issue still remains. I have lapsed into a higher level of intelligence as a player a wee bit out of character. I find it interesting to play a verbally challenged character but I am not quite sure if it lends itself to a PbP game very well. That being said, she has shown she can turn the conversation on a single word.

Personally, I love Magic Users. Usually multi-classed though. As a pure MU don't be afraid to carry a crossbow or something, even at -4 to Hit for being non-proficient, you are at least doing something, and just might get lucky. :o

How the Druid plays out can be very interesting, perhaps if one plays it right we could have a henchman of sorts.

Oh, and Val drinks...a lot.
User avatar
JadedDM
Initiate Immortal
Initiate Immortal
Posts: 11402
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:00 am
Location: Washington, USA

Re: OOC Thread

Post by JadedDM »

I'll keep at it for sure, experience will come. Tough bunch of rolls to fight through, but hey, at least she survived.
Yeah, at least it wasn't a repeat of the final battle in Knight's Sword!
Personally, I love Magic Users. Usually multi-classed though. As a pure MU don't be afraid to carry a crossbow or something, even at -4 to Hit for being non-proficient, you are at least doing something, and just might get lucky. :o
Me, too. Multi-classing does increase usefulness and survivability, but at the cost of slowing down XP growth. And mages already take so long to level up. (Good example being Dahn/Grey.)
Oh, and Val drinks...a lot.
Good thing she has such a good CON score. :D
User avatar
Jenara
Elven Princess
Elven Princess
Posts: 11684
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:00 am
Location: United Kingdom

Re: OOC Thread

Post by Jenara »

And Arei is just... Arei...

I am ashamed to admit I have a little of Oliver Platt's Porthos as inspiration, a little flippant and rather brash, as per her lowish wisdom she takes chances....

Hence the reason she tried to act silly and climb the tree, attack the Druid near death, and now... she is stuck in the middle.

She is not leadership material, but acts like she is.
"The songbird is not the eagle and the eagle is not the songbird. Mira, you cannot be everything to everyone - if you do, you end up exhausted, slumped against a wall, in the room of someone you don't particularly like." - Artanis Auir

Demiplane of Dread - Mira Human Bard (Searching for a Monster)
Genwald - Nesserrr (Katten) Feliz Ranger (Hunting Goblins.)
- Stardust (Jade) Pixie Warlock (Seeking answers)
User avatar
JadedDM
Initiate Immortal
Initiate Immortal
Posts: 11402
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:00 am
Location: Washington, USA

Re: OOC Thread

Post by JadedDM »

Nothing shameful about that. I take inspiration for characters all of the time, both fictional and real. (Some of my best NPCs were based off old coworkers of mine.)

Just as an example, Dalaim is partly inspired from a character called Maechen from Final Fantasy 10 (long winded, academic, grandfatherly) mixed with a little bit of Professor Farnsworth from Futurama (somewhat amoral, slightly obsessed with his work).
User avatar
Jenara
Elven Princess
Elven Princess
Posts: 11684
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:00 am
Location: United Kingdom

Re: OOC Thread

Post by Jenara »

I try to make them unique, but when I had the inspiration for her, it just fit so well, so she has the right attitude, the confidence, its just poorly placed.
"The songbird is not the eagle and the eagle is not the songbird. Mira, you cannot be everything to everyone - if you do, you end up exhausted, slumped against a wall, in the room of someone you don't particularly like." - Artanis Auir

Demiplane of Dread - Mira Human Bard (Searching for a Monster)
Genwald - Nesserrr (Katten) Feliz Ranger (Hunting Goblins.)
- Stardust (Jade) Pixie Warlock (Seeking answers)
User avatar
Breila
Grey Eminence
Grey Eminence
Posts: 5991
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:02 pm
Location: Swabia (SW Germany)

Re: OOC Thread

Post by Breila »

I will be afk until the 5th of January, having guests until late on the 1st and then go see my parents.
There's more to me than meets the eye...
User avatar
JadedDM
Initiate Immortal
Initiate Immortal
Posts: 11402
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:00 am
Location: Washington, USA

Re: OOC Thread

Post by JadedDM »

By the way, did Val ever pick up her bow or Jocelyn pick up her sling and hammer? If not, they're still on the floor in the temple.

Also, if Ouragana is going to walk backwards, who is going to watch over Maua?
Nuke
Lord
Lord
Posts: 1273
Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:46 pm

Re: OOC Thread

Post by Nuke »

I assume so since we spent an hour waiting around
User avatar
HorizonsDream
Duke
Duke
Posts: 5159
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:36 pm
Location: Washington

Re: OOC Thread

Post by HorizonsDream »

Uhh, if they were waiting for an hour, then yeah Jocelyn would have picked both up.
User avatar
Jenara
Elven Princess
Elven Princess
Posts: 11684
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:00 am
Location: United Kingdom

Re: OOC Thread

Post by Jenara »

Ever said something out loud by accident? It's on the tip of your tongue but you shouldn't.... Then it's all you can think....

That's what Arei just did
"The songbird is not the eagle and the eagle is not the songbird. Mira, you cannot be everything to everyone - if you do, you end up exhausted, slumped against a wall, in the room of someone you don't particularly like." - Artanis Auir

Demiplane of Dread - Mira Human Bard (Searching for a Monster)
Genwald - Nesserrr (Katten) Feliz Ranger (Hunting Goblins.)
- Stardust (Jade) Pixie Warlock (Seeking answers)
User avatar
JadedDM
Initiate Immortal
Initiate Immortal
Posts: 11402
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:00 am
Location: Washington, USA

Re: OOC Thread

Post by JadedDM »

Yeah. I specifically designed Andar to invoke a reaction from the PCs, although I admit even I didn't think it would be this strong, heh. Val doesn't like him, Areilon is making inappropriate innuendo and Jocelyn is just staring at him with her jaw on the floor. I'm very curious to what Ouragana's reaction will be.

Actually, he was going to be a woman originally. A sort of 'jungle princess' to follow the whole 'pulp adventure' trope. But then I realized the entire party was female (this quest was written before xelphyn and Noldoli joined), so the effect would have been lost on them. So I turned the character into a man.
Locked