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[TristenC]

I still don't see anything that says it can let someone see through another's eyes

[Lord Torath]

Can Mindlink let me see through someone's eyes in real-time? No, I don't think it can. It is purely voluntary communication. So I think Ke'Sha could send moving images of things he's seen, but there'd be a time delay.

Thinking about this right now, the delay probably can't be shorter than the length of the 'movie' you want to send. If Ke'Sha wants to send Stephen a 10-second clip, he's got to wait until the full ten seconds has been experienced, then send the memory of the experience over the next ten seconds. More like an Instant-Replay than even a 30-second-delayed live-stream.

Does that make sense? I'm kind of feeling this out myself just now.

[TristenC]

That makes sense conceptually. But if you recall I am not necessarily even fully convinced that it could send images. I'm allowing it, but I still have reservations. Translating that to 'video', even of delayed or discrete video, is yet another step in the progression when I honestly don't have good confidence or evidence of the first step along that road. I hope that helps explain my reluctance.

If we can find something more concrete in the text along those lines I'm willing to entertain it further. But for the current interaction a still image seems to fit the requested need, which (as I understood it) is: having enough info to open a Dimensional door into the room, and being able to see well enough through said dimensional door to target something on the other side. Both of which are confirmed at this time

[Nocturno]

When sending memories, what does that mean?
You would be remembering the experience, and someones brain would recreate the memory the way the sender would remember it. Into the "video"?

This is some philosophical stuff, I see why people don't like having to GM this type of character.

[Lord Torath]

The way I see it, you could share a memory of your childhood cat chasing a ball across the floor. You could share the memory of a song you heard, or the scent of the freshly-baked bread you ate for breakfast. The images and sounds you share would be no sharper than your own memory of them.

But as Tristan says, this may be reading too much into “Language is not a barrier.” To me, language not impeding communication means you can share things that don’t require words to express. Feelings, sounds, images, physical sensations, etc.

But it could alternatively be interpreted to mean that unknown languages are simply translated into a known language. That seems very limited to me for something that is direct mind-to-mind communication though.

[Lord Torath]

[Ooc] Yeah, that position works fine. And being closer to the ground helps anyone going through not have to worry about fall damage [/ooc]

I mean, assuming anyone wants to dive through there, getting a momentary disorientation before falling six-odd feet to the floor, just waiting for the statues to attack you. Stephen will recommend against it, however.

Hmmm... Do undead suffer the same disorientation that living things do when crossing a dimensional door?

[Lord Torath]

Do we declare our intended action as we roll initiative? Or do we declare it when our turn to act comes up?

[TristenC]

Hmm.. interesting question about the disorientation. The description says 'presumably traumatizes the body in some way' so let's go with that. Since it is physical it would still affect physical undead, but I'll say the spectre is immune.

Yeah, when we first begin combat I usually ask for 'actions and initiative', unless people have already begun to declare actions. We do initiative once per combat and use modifiers based on the character actions that round. So the 1d10 roll stays with a character throughout the fight, but they may take different places in the initiative if they take different actions round to round. Weapon speeds, casting speeds, etc come into play. Typically I keep track of all the modifiers amd write them out in the ooc text that follows the combat 'scene' text.

Occasionally if I have everything (declared actions etc) needed for combat to start except for initiative rolls I will take the liberty of rolling them for the pcs if -I have asked and not received them
-I have past consent from the player to do so

So far for Round 1 declared or mentioned actions it looks like we have:
-Stephen using Dimensional Door
-Axid using some psionic ability? To target the green figures?
-Ke'Sha? is he still sending the other Juju and wraith through the bubble? Cast Undead Alacrity on TrollZ and skel
-Jag and Jack are currently undeclared
-The party can see Allikhain preparing to cast a spell

Please let me know if I missed or misinterpreted anything

[BishGada]

Hi. First, very interesting philosophical conversation about mind and sharing.

No, I posted Ke'Sha sends them before we had reaction to the OOC suggestion of sharing the images Alrius sees, so if no one is going for area damage that might kill the undead, they will go through the dimension door.

[BishGada]

Do you all want to discuss strategy? First we could let Alrius inspect the room and share more data about it. Second, do you want to blast them with spells through the dimension door or go into melee fight?
Anyway, Ke'Sha is telling the others he is going to Conjure a Fire Elemental.
Just kidding. But if you are going to blast the room, there is no sense sending in the troops and Landro. If we are going to melee, Ke'Sha will send forth the undead minions and expects Drommacus to do his share.
@TristenC does any of the undead except the last surviving skeleton will benefit from undead alacrity? If so that would be the first action of Ke'Sha.

Also, can Stephen use his mind abilities to probe for other presences in the room? The trolls were invisible, there might be invisible creatures here too.
We can also send the quasits invisible and they can detect magic.

[Lord Torath]

Next round Stephen will be happy to do a life scan. Right now we are all safe from the golem-things (which, as far as we currently know are melee only), so I see no reason to have anyone actually pass through the portal.

Tristan, Prayer affects THAC0 rolls, damage, and saving throws. Does it affect psionic power initiation rolls? Psionics 'didn't exist' when the PHB was published, so it wouldn't have been included in the spell, even if it otherwise would have....
Okay, looking at CPsyHB p110, Prayer is not mentioned as affecting psionics, so that's probably a "No." A Ctrl-F search of The Will and the Way doesn't find 'prayer' at all, and that would be the next logical place to find an update.

[TristenC]

Hi. First, very interesting philosophical conversation about mind and sharing.

No, I posted Ke'Sha sends them before we had reaction to the OOC suggestion of sharing the images Alrius sees, so if no one is going for area damage that might kill the undead, they will go through the dimension door.

Allikhain is not going for area damage, I can't speak to the others. Just remember, if the physical undead go through the dimension door they will be stunned and cannot move or attack for one round after entering. The spectre, being incorporeal, is exempt from this. He could send one or attempt to send 2 creatures through the blood bubble of he wants. It will take 1 round for them to 'land' but they won't be stunned.

The skeleton and the monstrous zombies can benefit from Undead Alacrity, but not the others. You can get all 4 eligible targets in one casting.

Tristan, Prayer affects THAC0 rolls, damage, and saving throws. Does it affect psionic power initiation rolls? Psionics 'didn't exist' when the PHB was published, so it wouldn't have been included in the spell, even if it otherwise would have....
Okay, looking at CPsyHB p110, Prayer is not mentioned as affecting psionics, so that's probably a "No." A Ctrl-F search of The Will and the Way doesn't find 'prayer' at all, and that would be the next logical place to find an update.

I agree, I do not believe it would affect psionics since it in no way mentions things like skill/ nwp checks or ability score checks.

[Lord Torath]

So far for Round 1 declared or mentioned actions it looks like we have:
-Stephen using Dimensional Door

After opening the portal, Stephen will step back to allow Axid access to the portal. Per CPsiHB p24 psionicists can move at half speed when initiating psionic powers.

[BishGada]

Ke'Sha will cast undead alacrity on the trolls and the skeleton. Currently he will send no more creatures other than Alrius forth, unless of course something will change, like more creatures discovered or attack Alrius.

[Lord Torath]

Detonate Power activation: Con -3 Needs 13 or less. [1d20]=16 18 PSPs burnt.

A failed activation costs half the initiation cost. You only lost 9 PSPs. (CPsiHB p28 under "Understanding Power Descriptions)