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Should flame tongues give "warmth"?

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Should flame tongues give "warmth"?

Post#1 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:29 am

Over on DF, in a discussion about magical swords, it was pointed out, that THOUGH a frost brand does give it's wielder Fire resistance.. A Flame tongue, does NOT give the same towards cold..

So who here thinks that a flame tongue, SHOULD have granted the effects of the ring of warmth (spell resist cold) to it's wielder, in the same vein that a frost brand grants fire resistance?

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Re: Should flame tongues give "warmth"?

Post#2 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:36 am

In my current campaign, we use it that way. It does make sense to have it do that. Of course, I've heard it argued that a flame tongue is, as its base, a +1 weapon whereas the frost brand is at a base a +3 weapon, and the frost brand goes up to +6 vs. +4 for the flame tongue. I never bought that argument. I think it makes sense for both to work the same.

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Post#3 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:00 pm

True, but just looking at the 1e DMG< the flame tongue is listed as only 900xp/4500gp, where the frost brand is listed at 1600xp/8000xp.. Almost double it's value. Some on DF, feel that if we DID give the flame tongue the effect of that ring, we should bump up its xp to being comparible to the frost brand.

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Post#4 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:54 am

Yeah, it would make sense to jack up its xp/gp value.

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Post#5 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:53 pm

So as it stands, no it wouldn't give a "warmth" like effect, as the FB does fire resistance. BUT if it did, it would be worth comparible XP..

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Post#6 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:47 pm

Yep, I'd do both.

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Post#7 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:38 pm

Copy that. So for NOW, i'll stick with it does NOT give a ring of warmth like effect. BUT there might be a greater version out there, which does. (maybe it's intelligent and that's one of its powers).

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Re: Should flame tongues give "warmth"?

Post#8 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:52 am

I break it down more simply when playing. If it gives off ANY sort of flame, or radiant heat and it's purely not a visual effect, then of course it would provide a bonus against cold effects. That bonus is up to the DM.

I've never run into this item, so I can't provide any further thoughts. I just use LOGIC where the game fails to do such.
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